Two men, two incidents, two approaches: a suicide in Las Vegas, and an attack in New Orleans deemed terrorism and seemingly designed to kill as many people as possible.
When retired Air Force Col. Charlton Meginley considered the Bourbon Street tragedy, he came back to the military's oath — including a promise to defend the Constitution against enemies, "foreign and domestic." It made what happened in New Orleans "very angering" for him.
"You would never think that a domestic terrorist would come from someone who took that same oath that I did. And I think that that's what has really troubled me the most," said Meginley, who now serves as secretary of Louisiana's Department of Veterans Affairs.
Meginley points out that Jabbar concluded his service years ago, and it's unclear how connected he was to veterans' resources. But he sees Livelsberger's situation as concerning, and raises questions about who was tracking a "vulnerable soldier.”
"Those are questions that I think ultimately will have to be asked to see, hey, did we miss something?” Meginley said. “And should we have caught the warning signs earlier?"
Meginley said resources are plentiful for Louisiana veterans, including a local crisis line and financial assistance programs.
He urges veterans to do "buddy checks" and check on friends who may be more vulnerable.
Lexi Loudon, a Louisiana-based provisional therapist who works with the military community, said the reaction to the events in her circles has been muted, possibly because people in that world tend not to be as shocked by violence.
That's because while not everyone in the community has mental health needs, every service member or veteran who has tried to seek care has a story about problems with access, she explains.
While that's improved in recent years, Loudon said they're still catching up from a system that once lagged. Efforts like the Brandon Act have aimed to remedy that situation, and newly confirmed VA secretary Doug Collins has promised to improve care for service members, while trimming regulations.
Loudon, who is also a military spouse, describes a general distancing from the New Year's Day events, especially the Bourbon Street attack — an uncharacteristic shift from typical in-group identification between veterans and other service members.
"Individuals don't have the easiest time putting themselves in the shoes of someone who's going to commit mass atrocity," she said.
Over in Texas, U.S. Army veteran Gary Walp said there is a "tragic history" of periodic events where veterans harmed others. That includes long-ago events such as the University of Texas tower shooting and more recent incidents such as a mass shooting in Lewiston, Maine, in 2023.
Walp advocates for veterans caught up in the justice system. He said these types of incidents highlight the need for improved access to specialty courts that can step in if a veteran is arrested for lower-level crimes and connect them with treatment and resources.